I am working on getting me a collection of tracts together. I joined the Online School of Biblical Evangelism and I have to pass out at least 100 tracts to graduate. Of course, I am hoping to pass out way more than that, but I still need to pick out the ones I want and order them.
Angel, very cool. Glad to hear you joined the school!
If you ever have a free minute, check out this page devoted to "2 Minute Evangelism Tips" and other helpful things that might encourage you in passing out tracts...
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Thanks, Trish! I bookmarked the page and will definitely spend time tomorrow checking it out. I can use all the encouragement that I can get. Just the thought of it makes me nervous. But, I am determined! :)
Whether you are pulling our chain or not about being "Patricia" in the past and having a sex change, what you need is a heart change. God still calls you to repent turn from your sins and trust in Christ. There is nothing more important than that.
Have you heard the verse about sin being plesurable for a season but it leads to death (James 1:15, Heb 11:25)?
How about this one "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life."
"Praying for you, Matthew, and your liver."Do you disagree with Ray Comforts position that health problems (like cancer) are a chastisement from God then?
He says that you (Christians) should not pray for then to get better, in fact, you should pray that it continues until the chastisement is complete.
For sure Matthew (or should I call you Patricia), anytime!
You said, "Do you disagree with Ray Comfort's position that health problems (like cancer) are a chastisement from God then?"
Can you point to where Ray has said this? And I'll let your link through.
You added, "He says that you (Christians) should not pray for then to get better, in fact, you should pray that it continues until the chastisement is complete."
Can you point to where Ray has said this? And I'll let your link to this through too.
I don't know Ray's position on everything but if he is a biblical Christian (which I know him to be) then he would aggree with praying for someone to be healed and if it is God's will for them to be healed then they will be healed. But either way, whether He heals them or not God is still worthy to be praised.
For Rachel and all those who are born again and don't receive healing it's really not that bad...because their bodies will one day be resurrected to eternal life--with bodies that are uncorruptible.
Everyone will die of something...so even if they are healed here on this earth...death will soon come knocking. So our hope, as Christian's isn't here. It is in the life to come with Christ our Savior who is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. As James says, "life is like a vapor" James 4: 14)
"Therefore you should never take medicine to relieve pain. You should never consult a doctor or go to a hospital for treatment, because you would be interfering with the work of God in your life. If Cancer is the chastening tool of God, then doctors who are fighting cancer are fighting against the work of God. If a preacher or a Christian believes the sickness is a means of chastening, then he should never pray for relief from the sickness, but rather pray that the cancer will continue to grow until the chastening is completed”."- Ray Comfort, More than just Comfort (available at Living Waters Canada)
Makes you think of all those stories in the news where Christian families deny treatment for their kids (who, inevitably, die) because they don't want to interfere with God's plan, doesn't it?
Perhaps Ray has had a change of heart and doesn't hold to this view anymore. I know that he has been asked and has not responded so perhaps you could check it out? I would be very glad to hear that he doesn't hold this view anymore.
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28 comments:
LOL! You've got THAT right, Trish.
Well, maybe not the $876.
Craig
If you are spending $876 on stuff, it better be from livingwaters.com--sorry, just had to throw that in there for a shameless plug.
This made me really crack up--you are too funny!
Trish,
For the first time, you and I are in total agreement.
Regards,
Matt
Matt,
Glad to hear that you support my encouragement to ladies about the mass passing out of tracts. :-)
That is too funny! I love it!
I am working on getting me a collection of tracts together. I joined the Online School of Biblical Evangelism and I have to pass out at least 100 tracts to graduate. Of course, I am hoping to pass out way more than that, but I still need to pick out the ones I want and order them.
Thanks for the reminder! :)
Angel, very cool. Glad to hear you joined the school!
If you ever have a free minute, check out this page devoted to "2 Minute Evangelism Tips" and other helpful things that might encourage you in passing out tracts...
Here's the link:
http://www.fishwithtrish.com/tips.php
Blessings!
Trish,
I've no problem at all with you evangelizing your faith or encouraging others to do the same; I never have and I never will.
I sincerely hope you never thought otherwise.
Regards,
Matt
Thanks Matt. In that case, you want to pass some out yourself?...I'll send you a pack of 100. :-)
Your site is a blessing! keep passing those tracts out! who do you order your tracts from?
Christine,
I order tracts from LivingWaters.com (Ray Comfort's ministry). They've got great tracts!
Here's the direct link:
http://livingwaters.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=8&Itemid=199
And stay tuned because I'm going to be giving a way a pack of 100 tracts (that I made) on my blog!
You can view the tract here:
http://www.fishwithtrish.com/areyousaved.php
Blessings to you!
Thanks, Trish! I bookmarked the page and will definitely spend time tomorrow checking it out. I can use all the encouragement that I can get. Just the thought of it makes me nervous. But, I am determined! :)
Not exactly what I had in mind, Trish, but there are worse ways to spend an afternoon!
ExPatMatt, what does your name mean? Ex Pastor Matt??
No, silly!
My name used to be Patricia. Amazing what doctors can do these days, eh?
Regards,
Hey guys. Just got back.
And I gotta admit, that was a good joke and oh so true! Made me lol. :D
ExPatMatt,
Whether you are pulling our chain or not about being "Patricia" in the past and having a sex change, what you need is a heart change. God still calls you to repent turn from your sins and trust in Christ. There is nothing more important than that.
My heart's fine Trish, thanks for the concern!
My liver's a bit battered from too much booze at Uni, but my heart's still ticking away fine.
Cheers,
Glad to hear your heart is fine.
Have you heard the verse about sin being plesurable for a season but it leads to death (James 1:15, Heb 11:25)?
How about this one "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life."
Praying for you, Matthew, and your liver.
Trish,
Thanks for the concern (again), but;
"Praying for you, Matthew, and your liver."Do you disagree with Ray Comforts position that health problems (like cancer) are a chastisement from God then?
He says that you (Christians) should not pray for then to get better, in fact, you should pray that it continues until the chastisement is complete.
I wonder what Rachel Barkey would make of that?
For sure Matthew (or should I call you Patricia), anytime!
You said, "Do you disagree with Ray Comfort's position that health problems (like cancer) are a chastisement from God then?"
Can you point to where Ray has said this? And I'll let your link through.
You added, "He says that you (Christians) should not pray for then to get better, in fact, you should pray that it continues until the chastisement is complete."
Can you point to where Ray has said this? And I'll let your link to this through too.
I don't know Ray's position on everything but if he is a biblical Christian (which I know him to be) then he would aggree with praying for someone to be healed and if it is God's will for them to be healed then they will be healed. But either way, whether He heals them or not God is still worthy to be praised.
For Rachel and all those who are born again and don't receive healing it's really not that bad...because their bodies will one day be resurrected to eternal life--with bodies that are uncorruptible.
Everyone will die of something...so even if they are healed here on this earth...death will soon come knocking. So our hope, as Christian's isn't here. It is in the life to come with Christ our Savior who is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.
As James says, "life is like a vapor" James 4: 14)
Trish,
"Therefore you should never take medicine to relieve pain. You should never consult a doctor or go to a hospital for treatment, because you would be interfering with the work of God in your life. If Cancer is the chastening tool of God, then doctors who are fighting cancer are fighting against the work of God. If a preacher or a Christian believes the sickness is a means of chastening, then he should never pray for relief from the sickness, but rather pray that the cancer will continue to grow until the chastening is completed”."- Ray Comfort, More than just Comfort (available at Living Waters Canada)
Makes you think of all those stories in the news where Christian families deny treatment for their kids (who, inevitably, die) because they don't want to interfere with God's plan, doesn't it?
Perhaps Ray has had a change of heart and doesn't hold to this view anymore. I know that he has been asked and has not responded so perhaps you could check it out? I would be very glad to hear that he doesn't hold this view anymore.
Regards,
Trish,
Any news on whether or not Ray still holds these views? Do you agree with them?
Regards,
Nothing?
ExPatMatt/Patricia/Matthew, sorry not sure what I should address you as yet.
Yes.
Just to clarify, I don't believe in Evolution-thought that was clear a long time ago. Thanks for asking.
Trish,
That's not what I asked. In fact, I haven't mentioned evolution once in this thread.
It was pretty obvious what I was asking.
Honestly, sometimes it's like trying to get blood out of a stone with you, Trish!
Remember how hard I had to press to get you to answer three simple questions a while back? Now this.
When people aren't forthcoming with answers that they should redily able to provide, it makes people wonder if they have something to hide.
Just sayin'
Regards,
PS. You can call me Matt
To reiterate,
I was asking if you knew (or agreed with) Ray's position regarding 'cancer being a chastisement from God'.
Any chance of an answer on that?
Cheers,
Oh wait, is that what that little "Yes" was for?
So you don't think people should see a doctor when they get ill, because it's a chastisement from God; very interesting...
I'll take that as a yes then.
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