Sure. Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary says the following about the word "holy":
1: exalted or worthy of complete devotion as one perfect in goodness and righteousness
2: divine--for the Lord our God is holy--Pslams 99:9
The bible says:
- There is no one holy like the LORD,Indeed, there is no one besides You, Nor is there any rock like our God." (
Reynold said, "Never mind the many scientific mistakes in the bible...for example the mustard seed is said to be the "least" of all seeds, and the don't grow into "trees" as the bible says."
Let me quote the verse for us, “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field; 32 and this is smaller than all other seeds; but when it is full grown, it is larger than the garden plants, and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and nest in its branches,” (Matt. 13:31; see also Mark 4:30; Luke 13:19).
No. The mustard seed is not the smallest of all seeds. But we have to look at the way in which Jesus was speaking here. He was speaking proverbially. He wasn't making a statement of absolute fact but using a proverbial style of communication.
Matt Slick from Carm.org sheds light on this apparent contradiction, "There are different kinds of mustard trees in Israel and the mustard seed was the smallest of all the seeds known there and used by those in Israel. Also, notice that Jesus says that when it is full grown it is larger than the garden plants and becomes a tree so that the birds nest in it. There were many gardens in Israel with many types of plants, many of which were larger than the mustard plant. The olive tree for example, can grow to 20 feet or more. The mustard tree known as Salvadora persica has extremely small seeds and grows into a small bush. Brassica nigra is a mustard plant that grows to about 8 to 10 feet when mature and is probably the one Jesus was using for his illustration. Jesus would have known that it wasn't the largest of garden plants because of the prevalence of larger plants. Therefore, he was not making a botanical statement of fact. Instead, he was drawing attention to the comparison of the "smallest" to the "largest" and using it to illustrate how the Kingdom of heaven will expand in the world from a very small beginning to a huge presence."
Also, don't forget that Jesus used the mustard seed elsewhere in the same proverbial sense.
Jesus said, “Because of the littleness of your faith; for truly I say to you, if you have faith as a mustard seed, you shall say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it shall move; and nothing shall be impossible to you," (Matt. 17:20; see also Luke 17:5).
Here we can see that Jesus used the mustard seed as an illustration to make a point. He was not speaking in a scientifically accurate sense.
Reynold said, "Humanity has been around far longer than the bible claims, and in order for that to have happened, we'd have had to develop various moral codes to help us get along back then. We developed our moral code from many places; the Sumerians for one, Greeks, etc."
How do you know that humanity "has been around far longer than the bible claims"? The burden of proof is on you to back up this huge claim. Do you have the genealogies to the very first man on the planet? Answer: No. But the bible does. The Genesis account tells us how life began. And in the process of developing "moral codes" where did they get their moral codes from? How did they know what was moral and what wasn't moral? The bible has the answer for this question as well. And the infinite reference point for my worldview, is God and His Word. Your infinite reference point, is man.
Reynold said, "How does one account for what is and is not just? Empathy, consequences, and whatever rules helps the people in society get along while treating each other fairly. As circumstances change, the rules and ethics change, but at least secularists don't rely on
some book that proscribes child murder by some god as "just"."
Was it okay then for Hitler to kill millions of Jews? He was certainly okay with it. So does that make it just? How are you able to even make a statement that "child murder" is wrong? If in ten years society comes to an understanding that it's okay, than according to your logic...it would be okay.
Again, there is plenty of evidence to back the truth of God's existence. Your fighting against the creator of the universe and He will win. Look around, Reynold, the creation clearly reveals that there is a Creator. But you have suppressed the truth in unrighteousness (Romans 1:21-22) and according to the bible, your heart has been darkened. You love your sin. If you have looked upon a woman to lust after her you have already committed adultery with her in your heart. (Matthew 5:28) You have violated the first commandment and have made a god in your own image to suite yourself. Your heart could stop tonight. And you'd have to face a holy God. It's appointed once for man to die and then the judgment (Heb 9:27). You would stand guilty before a holy God. Please repent and turn from your darkened thinking today and Christ will translate you from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of light (1 Peter 2:9).
And Reynold (Get Educated too), if you would like to receive a copy of The Atheist Bible I will ship you a copy free of charge, if you agree to read it. Oh and by the way, Dan Barker emailed the ministry today and said that he was tempted to read Ray's new book. Dan's words, "in the interest of fairness and openness". So what about you two? Are you open minded enough to read his book. Perhaps you want to add your names to the drawing and maybe you'll win a copy.