Wednesday, August 10, 2011

They have already forgotten...

"Who was Adolf Hitler?" I asked a young man this past weekend during Saturday night evangelism.

He quickly responded, "Oh, he was a muslim terrorist, right?"

The next guy I asked said, "I don't know…wasn't he the guy that killed the



Stormbringer said...

Modern education systems do not seem to think this part of history is important. Perhaps it is because it is becoming fashionable to "unfriend" Israel? Or is it because there are interesting parallels between Hitler's election and gradual increase of power, and certain other elected officials?

Azou said...

I was going to say that our education system isn't that bad, but if Stormbringer is comparing Hitler's rise to power with any current politician in the US...well, I guess he has a point.

xflowahsx said...

somehow this just doesnt surprise me. i dont really even know what to say, but i fear for that and future generations.

Azou said...

I'm sure we'll be just fine, xflowahsx.

noah buddy said...

Why does the movie "Idiocracy" come to mind?


W01F said...

Well, according to more "atheists" than I am able to count, Adolph Hitler is the prime example of a true Christian. ; )


Ginger said...

I don't think they've forgotten. They just weren't taught. Sad, sad.

Reynold said...

Prime example of a true christian, no. Someone who used centuries of christian anti-semitism to help get what he wanted, yes.

The Popes Against the Jews: The Vatican's Role in the Rise of Modern Anti-Semitism
by David I. Kertzer

"After Auschwitz: Religion and the Origins of the Death Camps." Bobbs-Merrill, Indianapolis, Ind., 1966

"Theologian Richard Rubenstein wrote that the Nazis "did not invent a new villain...They took over the 2,000-year-old Christian trdition of the Jew as villain...The roots of the death camps must be sought in the mythic structure of Christianity...Myths concerning the demonological role of the Jews have been operative in Christianity for centuries..."

In Mein Kampf, Hitler said that it was some christian preacher, Karl Leuger who first inculated anti-Jewish hatred in him.
(see Hitler, Mein Kampf: Volume 1, Chapter 2.)

Otherwise, why would the man have given the "credit" for his views to a christian figure?

If anyone here reads that book you'll find that evolution and Darwin are not mentioned.

They made an undated "Blacklist for Public Libraries and Commercial Lending Libraries" includes the following on a list of literature which "absolutely must be removed":
c) All writings that ridicule, belittle or besmirch the Christian religion and its institution, faith in God, or other things that are holy to the healthy sentiments of the Volk. (Blacklist n.d.)

Julius Streicher (one of Hitler's top henchmen and publisher of the anti-Semitic Der Sturmer) was asked during the Nuremberg trials if there were any other publications in Germany which treated the Jewish question in an anti-Semitic way., Streicher put it well:
"Dr. Martin Luther would very probably sit in my place in the defendants' dock today, if this book had been taken into consideration by the Prosecution. In the book 'The Jews and Their Lies,' Dr. Martin Luther writes that the Jews are a serpent's brood and one should burn down their synagogues and destroy them..."

Trial of The Major War Criminals Before the International Military Tribunal, Nuremberg, 14 November 1945-- 1 October 1946, Vol. 12, p.318

At least no one here has went on to say that Hitler was a prime example of an "evolutionist". That's more class than I'd have expected.

How many times did Hitler say that he admired Darwin? How many times did Hitler mention Darwain in his writings? I've read Mein Kampf, and I can tell you. None.

This is maybe an indicator of how much Hitler liked Darwin
In 1935, Die Bücherei, the official Nazi journal for lending libraries listed books to reject:

Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism and Monism (Häckel). (Die Bücherei 1935, 279)

Azou said...

I don't think I've seen anyone say that, Craig. At least, not seriously.

Of course, we have a much broader definition of Christian than you, but it is commonly said that Hitler is an evolution-loving atheist. You may not consider him a Christian, but he was certainly no atheist. said...


How ARE you, old friend. Have you been posting under a different name or something?

Anyway_Thank you for the comment. It surpassed my expectations.

(Like I really have to explain this) Re. the plethora* of posts-comments-articles on the interwebs over the years reminding us Christians that "Hitler was one of you guys."

By the way guys, I used this same Hitler photo on my blog as a humour post. Check it out.

*plethora = def. A whole bunch : )

Craig said...


"...he was certainly no atheist."

I agree. As a Christian, I have no belief in the actual existence of atheists. (although we use the word by way of accomodation) Romans 1:18-21 & Romans 2:15-16

Reynold said...

Actually Craig, my last post was the ending comment here:

Radagast said...

I have no belief in the actual existence of atheists.

Since God didn't have a Creator, He must be an atheist. Oops. said...


That was your last posting at FWT? Wow. That was a long conversation. I enjoyed talking with you very much. (As always) said...

"Since God didn't have a Creator, He must be an atheist. Oops."

With the logic of that proposition, the "Oops" is quite apropos. : )